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	<title>Comments on: Weekly Discount roundup (Oct 26 - Nov 01)</title>
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		<title>By: Green Buddy</title>
		<link>http://www.petrolwatch.com.sg/news/archives/284/weekly-discount-roundup-oct-26-nov-01.html#comment-9902</link>
		<dc:creator>Green Buddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>okiie, that's nice to hear. However, are there any seals to make it tamper proof? or is it as simple as pulling an electronic switch or pressing a button? Since a lot of things thesedays are controlled by electronics ;)


#  govtbody Says:
November 5th, 2009 at 2:53 pm

just to highlight all pumps for all petrol stations are verfied by the govt , hence no companies will cheat the consumers ie less litres as per indicated in the pump.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>okiie, that&#8217;s nice to hear. However, are there any seals to make it tamper proof? or is it as simple as pulling an electronic switch or pressing a button? Since a lot of things thesedays are controlled by electronics <img src='http://www.petrolwatch.com.sg/news/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>#  govtbody Says:<br />
November 5th, 2009 at 2:53 pm</p>
<p>just to highlight all pumps for all petrol stations are verfied by the govt , hence no companies will cheat the consumers ie less litres as per indicated in the pump.</p>
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		<title>By: ihatejams</title>
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		<dc:creator>ihatejams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 08:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>seeing so much unhappiness with $1 promo...
makes me wonder when the next promo comes along will this be forgotten and all roads are jam up again?
bad fuel, but cheap... will consumer bite?

i hate all these jams, kana in aug, 1 left turn 20mins!!!
since then i don't pump this brand</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>seeing so much unhappiness with $1 promo&#8230;<br />
makes me wonder when the next promo comes along will this be forgotten and all roads are jam up again?<br />
bad fuel, but cheap&#8230; will consumer bite?</p>
<p>i hate all these jams, kana in aug, 1 left turn 20mins!!!<br />
since then i don&#8217;t pump this brand</p>
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		<title>By: foundation</title>
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		<dc:creator>foundation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 07:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was in the oil industry for a while, this is what I know:

All custody meters (such as those in petrol stations, bunkering stations, etc) in Singapore need to be certified by the Weights and Measures Office in SPRING, and is governed by the Weights and Measures Act.  This is done so that companies will not deliberately tamper with their flowmeters to cheat consumers..  That's for oil..

However, I'm not sure if this applies to the mama shop in our neighborhood where they sell their nuts / beans / sweets and stuff by weight..  I heard some of them actually tamper their scale to give the perception that customers get what they pay for, while in fact we get less..

Sharing my 2 cents  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was in the oil industry for a while, this is what I know:</p>
<p>All custody meters (such as those in petrol stations, bunkering stations, etc) in Singapore need to be certified by the Weights and Measures Office in SPRING, and is governed by the Weights and Measures Act.  This is done so that companies will not deliberately tamper with their flowmeters to cheat consumers..  That&#8217;s for oil..</p>
<p>However, I&#8217;m not sure if this applies to the mama shop in our neighborhood where they sell their nuts / beans / sweets and stuff by weight..  I heard some of them actually tamper their scale to give the perception that customers get what they pay for, while in fact we get less..</p>
<p>Sharing my 2 cents  <img src='http://www.petrolwatch.com.sg/news/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: govtbody</title>
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		<dc:creator>govtbody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 06:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just to highlight all pumps for all petrol stations are verfied by the govt , hence no companies will cheat the consumers ie less litres as per indicated in the pump.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just to highlight all pumps for all petrol stations are verfied by the govt , hence no companies will cheat the consumers ie less litres as per indicated in the pump.</p>
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		<title>By: Green Buddy</title>
		<link>http://www.petrolwatch.com.sg/news/archives/284/weekly-discount-roundup-oct-26-nov-01.html#comment-9897</link>
		<dc:creator>Green Buddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 05:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As my car was aging after being driven around for coming 2 years and clocking in 55000km, the fuel consumption suffered a bit and went from 15.5 km per litre to 14.5 km per litre. Always been sticking to C ham petrol with some KAltex top up.

If you FC dropped becos of the C ham promotional petrol which could be old stock, it could be true since they never tell you what they REALLY give you. They give you petrol, you give them money, simple.

In fact why i continued with C ham was that a week before they announced the new fuelsave petrol, i topped up and realised that my FC shot up to 16.4 km / litre considering i dun really change my driving habit, drive to and from work, pick up wifey and head home. 

then i continued and the FC has stabilised to 15.5 km / litre. I din get the chance to get C ham petrol at $1 / litre

either the new fuel save is working or we cant be sure they done sth to the pump meters? Can they ? I do not know since i have spotted a stick on small metal plate that says the pumps have been certified by some weights and measure authority of singapore. Any bro or sis can verify on this ?

So SUPPPOSE, ASSume they give you more petrol than their pumps indicate, some sort of a discount still, you will logically calculate that your FC has improved. Then , there is no breakthrough in technology ? I don't know man!

jus my 2 cents worth</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As my car was aging after being driven around for coming 2 years and clocking in 55000km, the fuel consumption suffered a bit and went from 15.5 km per litre to 14.5 km per litre. Always been sticking to C ham petrol with some KAltex top up.</p>
<p>If you FC dropped becos of the C ham promotional petrol which could be old stock, it could be true since they never tell you what they REALLY give you. They give you petrol, you give them money, simple.</p>
<p>In fact why i continued with C ham was that a week before they announced the new fuelsave petrol, i topped up and realised that my FC shot up to 16.4 km / litre considering i dun really change my driving habit, drive to and from work, pick up wifey and head home. </p>
<p>then i continued and the FC has stabilised to 15.5 km / litre. I din get the chance to get C ham petrol at $1 / litre</p>
<p>either the new fuel save is working or we cant be sure they done sth to the pump meters? Can they ? I do not know since i have spotted a stick on small metal plate that says the pumps have been certified by some weights and measure authority of singapore. Any bro or sis can verify on this ?</p>
<p>So SUPPPOSE, ASSume they give you more petrol than their pumps indicate, some sort of a discount still, you will logically calculate that your FC has improved. Then , there is no breakthrough in technology ? I don&#8217;t know man!</p>
<p>jus my 2 cents worth</p>
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		<title>By: stan79</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 02:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As i said earlier on, my fc went up cos of using the c hum 98 during the $1 promo. However, power wise I dun really feel any difference maybe I'm not as sensitive as you guys. Hence i still think juz go pump which ever give the most discount or cheapest petrol. So far I wont go back to c hum since their discount sucks n higher fc for the time being unless $1 / litre is like everyday kind of promo then I will go back to use it again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As i said earlier on, my fc went up cos of using the c hum 98 during the $1 promo. However, power wise I dun really feel any difference maybe I&#8217;m not as sensitive as you guys. Hence i still think juz go pump which ever give the most discount or cheapest petrol. So far I wont go back to c hum since their discount sucks n higher fc for the time being unless $1 / litre is like everyday kind of promo then I will go back to use it again.</p>
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		<title>By: dork</title>
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		<dc:creator>dork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 02:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>actually shell only promise 2% improvement in fuel economy.  that is very little.  Imagine if u have 50 $2 notes in your wallet.  Some one then steal 1 pc from u.  Can u tell the difference?  To me it is just a marketing ploy.

Sg road condition also vary fm day to day.  Eg raining, PIE jam, u blame lousy fuel for poor economy?  Eg today sway.  Kena every traffic light on way to work.  U blame lousy fuel again?

There is no way we consumers can replicate the consistent the lab conditions to verify what the oil companies claim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>actually shell only promise 2% improvement in fuel economy.  that is very little.  Imagine if u have 50 $2 notes in your wallet.  Some one then steal 1 pc from u.  Can u tell the difference?  To me it is just a marketing ploy.</p>
<p>Sg road condition also vary fm day to day.  Eg raining, PIE jam, u blame lousy fuel for poor economy?  Eg today sway.  Kena every traffic light on way to work.  U blame lousy fuel again?</p>
<p>There is no way we consumers can replicate the consistent the lab conditions to verify what the oil companies claim.</p>
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		<title>By: Esso! YEah!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Esso! YEah!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 00:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sigh... dunno the rumour on inferior quality true or not leh..

i experience loss of power with Shell 98 $1-promo.  then got once experience car jerking while moving off, like as if going to die on me, maybe left 2 bar of petrol.  i using esso 5000 previously. now after changing back to esso 5000, no such problem.

not worth saving $1, if it is going to damage my engine. i don't trust shell anymore.  After some thinking, when Shell is losing money, how can Shell gives out $1 petrol... fishy... wierd... my poor car :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sigh&#8230; dunno the rumour on inferior quality true or not leh..</p>
<p>i experience loss of power with Shell 98 $1-promo.  then got once experience car jerking while moving off, like as if going to die on me, maybe left 2 bar of petrol.  i using esso 5000 previously. now after changing back to esso 5000, no such problem.</p>
<p>not worth saving $1, if it is going to damage my engine. i don&#8217;t trust shell anymore.  After some thinking, when Shell is losing money, how can Shell gives out $1 petrol&#8230; fishy&#8230; wierd&#8230; my poor car <img src='http://www.petrolwatch.com.sg/news/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: No Gain From Fuelsave</title>
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		<dc:creator>No Gain From Fuelsave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 00:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i pumped Fuelsave 98 because of the promotion but also saw no increase in power or FC and will be going back to Esso 95 for my next topup.

So far it seems that Fuelsave 98's capabilities are very arbitrary. There is no clear outcome whether it really does conserve petrol in real life usage. At the "up to one litre" savings for a minimum of fifty litres pump (read "at most 2% savings under test conditions"), my feel is that it really will not give us any benefit in Singapore's start-stop traffic conditions.

Just go ahead and pump from individual's preferred petrol vendor for the next topup. The term fuelsave is just another marketing tactic like techron, synergy, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i pumped Fuelsave 98 because of the promotion but also saw no increase in power or FC and will be going back to Esso 95 for my next topup.</p>
<p>So far it seems that Fuelsave 98&#8217;s capabilities are very arbitrary. There is no clear outcome whether it really does conserve petrol in real life usage. At the &#8220;up to one litre&#8221; savings for a minimum of fifty litres pump (read &#8220;at most 2% savings under test conditions&#8221;), my feel is that it really will not give us any benefit in Singapore&#8217;s start-stop traffic conditions.</p>
<p>Just go ahead and pump from individual&#8217;s preferred petrol vendor for the next topup. The term fuelsave is just another marketing tactic like techron, synergy, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: no2c_hum</title>
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		<dc:creator>no2c_hum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 00:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mine oso suffer, used to get 16km per liter with esso 95
pump full tank during promo and now work out to be 13.5km/liter,
cant believe it myself, no go for chum ever again, fuel saving my foot!
regret wasting time for stupid hassle and now, money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mine oso suffer, used to get 16km per liter with esso 95<br />
pump full tank during promo and now work out to be 13.5km/liter,<br />
cant believe it myself, no go for chum ever again, fuel saving my foot!<br />
regret wasting time for stupid hassle and now, money.</p>
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