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	<title>Comments on: Caltex Pump Price - DECREASE by 4 cents!</title>
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	<description>'Cos every cent counts.</description>
	<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tuapuk</title>
		<link>http://www.petrolwatch.com.sg/news/archives/289/caltex-pump-price-decrease-by-4-cents.html#comment-10033</link>
		<dc:creator>tuapuk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 05:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i wonder if "boycott" works. bcoz who really rally to shouts of boycott? forumers? only the minority pal..

the only real, effective (but not easy, close to impossible due to the cartel's lobbying and resistance) way to up theirs is to switch to electric cars. one wonders why electric cars are sooooo slow in seeing mass market daylight wen it can be done 20yrs ago. 

oh did i mentioned cartel?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i wonder if &#8220;boycott&#8221; works. bcoz who really rally to shouts of boycott? forumers? only the minority pal..</p>
<p>the only real, effective (but not easy, close to impossible due to the cartel&#8217;s lobbying and resistance) way to up theirs is to switch to electric cars. one wonders why electric cars are sooooo slow in seeing mass market daylight wen it can be done 20yrs ago. </p>
<p>oh did i mentioned cartel?</p>
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		<title>By: Foundation</title>
		<link>http://www.petrolwatch.com.sg/news/archives/289/caltex-pump-price-decrease-by-4-cents.html#comment-10029</link>
		<dc:creator>Foundation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi k1478,

No problem, just some information sharing here..  We do this all the time, and at the end of the day, just want a best deal to fuel our cars..

Cheers!  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi k1478,</p>
<p>No problem, just some information sharing here..  We do this all the time, and at the end of the day, just want a best deal to fuel our cars..</p>
<p>Cheers!  <img src='http://www.petrolwatch.com.sg/news/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: k1478</title>
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		<dc:creator>k1478</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Foundation &#38; lousy car,

Actually my first point was just a lame response to another lame comment further up. Sorry about that. 

As for whether crude purchased was on FOB, CIF etc, I believe that was not the driver. Anyway most of the crude used by Exxon, Shell and SRC are FOB from Middle East.

The logic behind all these price movements or non-movements are simple: 

1) a petrol station needs to be refilled.
2) competition for market share

As for hedging, all oil majors and oil trading companies (eg Vitol) play with that all the time. However I dont really see how it becomes a key factor in retail price movements here.  

And if someone manage to find some info on how the pricing formula or the excise tax on gasoline is like, please share with us.

Happy driving folks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Foundation &amp; lousy car,</p>
<p>Actually my first point was just a lame response to another lame comment further up. Sorry about that. </p>
<p>As for whether crude purchased was on FOB, CIF etc, I believe that was not the driver. Anyway most of the crude used by Exxon, Shell and SRC are FOB from Middle East.</p>
<p>The logic behind all these price movements or non-movements are simple: </p>
<p>1) a petrol station needs to be refilled.<br />
2) competition for market share</p>
<p>As for hedging, all oil majors and oil trading companies (eg Vitol) play with that all the time. However I dont really see how it becomes a key factor in retail price movements here.  </p>
<p>And if someone manage to find some info on how the pricing formula or the excise tax on gasoline is like, please share with us.</p>
<p>Happy driving folks</p>
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		<title>By: Foundation</title>
		<link>http://www.petrolwatch.com.sg/news/archives/289/caltex-pump-price-decrease-by-4-cents.html#comment-10025</link>
		<dc:creator>Foundation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 00:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's hard to believe, but in fact, even oil produces hedge their physical products.  What you are referring to are companies hedging their fuel prices to CONTROL THEIR COST.  But these oil biggies are actually hedging for a different reason, to LOCK IN THEIR PROFITS..

Hedging is normally done via paper derivatives, and usually done either via other companies direct, or via a bank (OTC market)..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s hard to believe, but in fact, even oil produces hedge their physical products.  What you are referring to are companies hedging their fuel prices to CONTROL THEIR COST.  But these oil biggies are actually hedging for a different reason, to LOCK IN THEIR PROFITS..</p>
<p>Hedging is normally done via paper derivatives, and usually done either via other companies direct, or via a bank (OTC market)..</p>
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		<title>By: lousy car</title>
		<link>http://www.petrolwatch.com.sg/news/archives/289/caltex-pump-price-decrease-by-4-cents.html#comment-10024</link>
		<dc:creator>lousy car</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol. don make me laugh k1478. hedging of prices is done by companies with the petrol/oil suppliers. and not oil suppliers to whoever u think they are. they are the ones supplying the petrol, so who do u think they hedge the price with? .. funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol. don make me laugh k1478. hedging of prices is done by companies with the petrol/oil suppliers. and not oil suppliers to whoever u think they are. they are the ones supplying the petrol, so who do u think they hedge the price with? .. funny.</p>
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		<title>By: Foundation</title>
		<link>http://www.petrolwatch.com.sg/news/archives/289/caltex-pump-price-decrease-by-4-cents.html#comment-10023</link>
		<dc:creator>Foundation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi k1478,

For your point 1, actually, doesn't matter where the cargo is from, and doesn't matter how long it takes to be delivered to Singapore, because they would have hedged using time spreads (actually, the refinery also takes time to refine the crude into gasoline, but this time lag doesn't matter as much as the refining margins).  Of cos, a contango market or backwardation market would produce different effects on the final prices..  Also, would be dependant if purchase pricing is on FOB, CIF, C&#38;F or DES..

Your point 3 is a good point, our government imposes a levy on our gasoline retail market, so a certain percentage goes to them..  The remaining are profits to the oil biggies after distribution and staff costs..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi k1478,</p>
<p>For your point 1, actually, doesn&#8217;t matter where the cargo is from, and doesn&#8217;t matter how long it takes to be delivered to Singapore, because they would have hedged using time spreads (actually, the refinery also takes time to refine the crude into gasoline, but this time lag doesn&#8217;t matter as much as the refining margins).  Of cos, a contango market or backwardation market would produce different effects on the final prices..  Also, would be dependant if purchase pricing is on FOB, CIF, C&amp;F or DES..</p>
<p>Your point 3 is a good point, our government imposes a levy on our gasoline retail market, so a certain percentage goes to them..  The remaining are profits to the oil biggies after distribution and staff costs..</p>
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		<title>By: k1478</title>
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		<dc:creator>k1478</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. Product price movement is not dependent on today's or yesterday's crude prices. A cargo from the Middle East takes 20 to 40days to ship to Singapore.

2. ChevronTexaco, formed after a merger between Chevron (from California) and Texaco (from Texas), owns Caltex. If ChevronTexaco produces Top Tier Detergent Gasoline, what do you think Caltex is selling? What do you think ExxonMobil is selling? Its clear who's giving the best deals.

3. If a barrel of crude oil (159 Litres) is USD80, and a barrel of gasoline is USD95, then 1L of gasoline is only 85 singapore cents. What happened?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Product price movement is not dependent on today&#8217;s or yesterday&#8217;s crude prices. A cargo from the Middle East takes 20 to 40days to ship to Singapore.</p>
<p>2. ChevronTexaco, formed after a merger between Chevron (from California) and Texaco (from Texas), owns Caltex. If ChevronTexaco produces Top Tier Detergent Gasoline, what do you think Caltex is selling? What do you think ExxonMobil is selling? Its clear who&#8217;s giving the best deals.</p>
<p>3. If a barrel of crude oil (159 Litres) is USD80, and a barrel of gasoline is USD95, then 1L of gasoline is only 85 singapore cents. What happened?</p>
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		<title>By: Caltex_driver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caltex_driver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have checked. No refund. Going to switch to Shell next time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have checked. No refund. Going to switch to Shell next time.</p>
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		<title>By: tchekchuan</title>
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		<dc:creator>tchekchuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 02:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>those petrol companies should put clearly their price panel just like wat shell has did....

people might not be aware of the increased price until they have already pump up to their full tank.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>those petrol companies should put clearly their price panel just like wat shell has did&#8230;.</p>
<p>people might not be aware of the increased price until they have already pump up to their full tank.</p>
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		<title>By: melvinyuen</title>
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		<dc:creator>melvinyuen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 02:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shit i pump at that increased price.
suka suka increase.
Any one complain and managed to get a refund?
Please share here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shit i pump at that increased price.<br />
suka suka increase.<br />
Any one complain and managed to get a refund?<br />
Please share here.</p>
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